Why McCain's Gaffe Can NOT Be Innocent

Cross-posting from dailykos:

From Marc Ambinder:

McCain In Amman, Jordan Today:

McCain: Well, it's common knowledge and has been reported in the media that Al Qaeda is going back into Iran and is receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran. That's well known and it's unfortunate. So I believe that we are succeeding in Iraq - the situation has dramatically improved, but I also want to emphasize time and again Al Qaeda is on the run, but they are not defeated. We are seeing a major battle take place in Mosul as we speak. The southern part of Iraq has other difficulties as we well know. So I am pleased with the progress, we have a long way to go, and I am deeply concerned about Iranian influence, not only in Iraq, but on nuclear weapons; on sponsorship of Hezbollah and other terrorist organizations, and if we leave Iraq it will enhance Iranian influence in the region to the detriment, I think, of every nation in the region.

[Lieberman whispers in McCain's ear]

McCain: I'm sorry; the Iranians are training the extremists, not Al Qaeda. Not Al Qaeda. I'm sorry.


Ambinder

First of all, it's telling that McCain has two categories for the bad guys in Iraq.  There's "al-Qaeda," which is really al-Qaeda in Iraq/Mesopotamia, which has no logistical ties to the fellas in Afghanistan and the Northwest Frontier Provinces of Pakistan.  Then, there are "extremists."  And that's it.  This taxonomy is acceptable if you're arguing politics after 5 beers or a joint.  Not so much for talking to the media about your signature issue in a trip designed to emphasize your command over said issue.

Then, of course, there's the gaffe.  AQI is not the Shia militias.

But surely we can dismiss this as innocent.  The campaign is no doubt arduous, and it's easy to make such slip-ups.

What screws him here is the bolded statement.  Why's that?  Well, Mosul is a predominantly Sunni area, mostly Arabs and Kurds.  Someone who's interested in basic Iraqi politics should know that the Shia militias - the Badr Brigade, the Mahdi Army, and Fadhila, don't have a serious presence in the city.  In fact, recent news has indicated that AQI have moved further North after alienating local leaders in Anbar.  

So I wonder, what happened in Mosul recently?  

Google news tells me in an article dated 3/17/08:

Further north, coalition forces conducted three coordinated operations in Mosul targeting associates of al Qaeda operating in the area. The ground forces detained nine suspected terrorists on site, including three wanted individuals with suspected connections to an al Qaeda senior leader.

Two of the suspects are believed to be involved in an al Qaeda-affiliated insurgent group in the region and the facilitation of suicide vests. Another allegedly is involved with a foreign terrorist leader in the city.


Linky

So the quote simply doesn't make sense if you substitute the Mahdi Army for AQ.  We were not fighting Sadr in Mosul.

The quote makes sense only if you substitute Muslims we don't like for Muslims we don't like.

This betrays serious ignorance over Iraqi politics.

In an ideal world, this sort of thing seriously hurts campaigns.

But we live a world dominated by Pumkinhead.



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Re: Why McCain's Gaffe is Serious (2.00 / 1)

Agree - this was a big, big gaffe. I expect know nothings to make statements like this. But this can't be dismissed as a simple misstatement. He said it twice. It shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what is happening over there.

AQ - Sunni Group
Iran - Shite Country

These are the basics. Saying that AQ is training in Iran shows he doesn't even know the basics. There is no way either HRC or Obama would make this mistake.


by grover738 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 05:11:38 PM EST

Re: Why McCain's Gaffe Can NOT Be Innocent (none / 0)

I agree... it was not innocent. Saying Al Queda is in Iran is a way to rally the average Joe to your side when you want to start a war.


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by owl06 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 05:44:41 PM EST

Re: Why McCain's Gaffe Can NOT Be Innocent (none / 0)

No doubt, if he ever repeats this its either a sign of senility (a genuine concern at his age see Reagan in 1984) or a hint that he's plainning to invade Iran-- this is almost word-for-word what Dubya et al did in the runup to Iraq.


by Socraticsilence on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 06:16:20 PM EST
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Re: Why McCain's Gaffe Can NOT Be Innocent (none / 0)

I don't think it was a mistake.  I think he assumes that people don't know the difference and it was an attempt to shore up an excuse to go after Iran.


by JustJennifer on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 05:45:25 PM EST

Re: Why McCain's Gaffe Can NOT Be Innocent (1.00 / 1)

who cares? people won't care about this as much as about Obama and his anti-American radical pastor. I am just upset that we are about to nominate a sure loser for the general, so get used to this old McCain getting things confused. I might vote for McCain based on all this radical stuff that Obama has been associating himself with.


by American1989 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 05:47:24 PM EST

Re: Why McCain's Gaffe Can NOT Be Innocent (none / 0)

Fuck That! He's not "confusing" them this is the same type of conflation that Bush and Cheney did in the leadup to Iraq.


by Socraticsilence on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 06:18:13 PM EST
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